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president obama leads. he arrived in israel. a three-day trip where he will meet with israeli and palestinian leaders. for months, republicans attacked his leadership and cynically said this president doesn't care about one of our strongest allies. but what the world saw today was president obama leading on the world stage. >> as beebee mentioned, this is our fourth meeting. america's support for israel's security is unprecedented and the alliance between our nations has never been stronger. israel's security is guaranteed because it has a great deal on its side, including unwavering
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support of the united states. we have your back. >> we have your back. doesn't exactly fit the republican's effort to use obama's diplomacy as a battery ram against him. >> on israel, it's never been worse between the united states and israel. >> you skipped israel but you went to the other nations and, by the way, they noticed that you skipped israel. >> they see president obama and new york city the same day netanyahu does and instead goes on a daily talk show. >> disrespectful of prime minister netanyahu? really? let's hear what that man said today, the prime minister himself. >> i want to thank you for the investment you have made in our relationship and in strengthening the friendship and appliance between our two countries. it is deeply, deeply
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appreciated. >> in a visit important to our nation's security, the republican attacks against this president's foreign policy seemed puny, especially when the president and prime minister were actually laughing. >> and i want to express a special thanks to sarah as well as your two sons for their warmth and hospitality. it was wonderful to see them. they are -- i did inform the prime minister that they are very good looking young men who clearly got their looks from their mother. >> well, i can say the same of your daughters. >> this is true. our goal is to improve our gene pool by marrying women better than we are. >> this is the reality. the gop consistently tries to paint the president as someone that he isn't. they falsely accuse him of being
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anti-american, of being lazy, of being born in another court, and then comes the reality. today it was there for the world to see. joining me now is jim warren, washington bureau chief of "the new york daily news" and msnbc contribute are to, joy reid. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> jim, iran, syria, the peace process, these are really tough issues. is the president trying to reset relations with the israeli government? >> you know, i think as much as anything, he's trying to slightly reset them with the general israeli public. one realizes that netanyahu knows what the deal is. they've met ten times? that's far more than he's met with putin, far more than the leaders with china and ironically more than some particular congressional leaders. but reputations and images, as you know, good and bad, are hard
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to lose. and here's a situation in which the image among both conservatives in this country and among the israeli public fly in the face of what are the facts. never in history on many levels, intelligence sharing, military aid, security information being shared has a relationship been any stronger than it is today and a little bit of news if you're listening to that press conference was that this significant military aid package that we have with israel that we give israel, looks like it's going to be extended by another ten years as of the year 2017. now, that doesn't sound like mortal enemies at work. and when you look at what played out today and it wasn't just the joking about the good looking sons. it was also rather poignant moment right after that when he started reading some of the prime minister brother's writings and he teared up, the
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charm offensive, the genuine charm offensive that was of display today makes what is going on in washington and been chronicled with all of the congressmen almost look like mean-spirited backstabbing. this was genuine and effective. >> but i think the problem, joy, that i'm having with this is that with all of the sensitivities and many of us have different views about middle east and about what should and shouldn't be done and balance and all, but with all at stake, iran, what's going on with syria, whether there's going to be -- whether it was chemical warfare being used -- it was used for cheap political points by the right wing against this president in very volatile times. give you an example. john baltan, the former u.n. ambassador, slammed president obama for being hostile towards israel. look at this. >> i think it's clear that president obama is the most
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hostile president that america has had since the formation of israel in 1948. >> the most hostile president since 1948 when israel was formed yet we find today, as jim just said, he and netanyahu have met ten times. the highest civilian award given to any civilian is going to be presented to him by perez, the president of israel. >> right. and this goes back to when president obama was running in 2008 and many on the right, from sarah palin on, characterized him as very close to a terrorist. it was all of this insid situation that he's really a muslim, lying about his muslim faith, because of the identity of his father, that he was from kenya, that he was a marxist, and that characterization is carried overall the way up until today. the right wing, for political
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expediency, constantly tries to portray this president. and by the way, netanyahu has not exactly walked away from i plaing to the american right wing for his own political purposes. there's been a closeness, at least in terms of perception, between him and some elements of the republican party. and so you get the sense from a lot of people that personally netanyahu and barack obama have not been close, that they have not been on the same page about a lot of things. but they are on the same page. >> the difference, i think, and i couldn't agree with you more, is that netanyahu can say i'm protecting israel, i thought rodney was going to win and that's what i do. >> absolutely. >> supposed to be pro equity itting this court. >> exactly. republican politicians who have used for political expediency, this false characterization of the president all the way to his
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cairo speech and that has impacted barack obama's -- the opinion of him on the ground in israel and part of what he's doing now is to go over the heads of the leadership and talking heads and get right to the israeli people and form a direct personal bond with them. >> you know, jim, one of the things that was amazing to me is with all of this about the president's hostility to israel and the worse want to deal with israel, you know the president that never went to israel in two terms in office, ronald reagan. the hero of the conservatives, reagan never went to israel as president. and this president has acted in ways that you've talked about with the ten meetings of netanyahu, what more adequate speech can he with deal with as a collective pursuit of peace than a speech in cairo, jim? >> i mean, i think it's more than reagan, reverend. i think probably a majority of american presidents since
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eisenhower did not trek to israel. >> he's the hero so certainly -- >> i agree. >> something to note. >> i agree. and as a young senator during that short period of time that he was representing the state of illinois, obama, you know, went to israel. for sure joy is right on the mark about the bug up their butts that a lot of folks have about the cairo speech. but the context there was one we can forget. it's in which a new administration firmly believed, whether you agree with them or not, that its predecessor, george w. bush, had been fighting essentially a war on islam. that was the view on the arab street and the obama folks went out very directly in cairo in 2009 to rebut that. now, that had some collateral damage particularly among the israeli public which seems to have forgotten in large measure that the level of cooperation, be it economic, military, intelligence sharing between the
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two courts has never exceeded what now finds with president obama. >> i'm going to leave it on that point. jim warren and joy reid, thank you for joining us this evening. >> thank you. ahead, michele bachmann running from reality? sorry congressman. you can run but you can't hide from the truth. plus, in tonight's nice try but we've got you segment, what could possibly go wrong? don't worry, we've got them. and march madness is here. college basketball going wild. but republicans have found another way to go after the president. i'll be stuffing their weak stuff coming up.
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this morning i woke up to a powerful headline in "the new york daily news." same on u.s. 20 reasons why so many of us are still concerned about the senate dropping the say salt weapons ban from the gun safety bill but we're not giving up. there's still a lot of work to be done. today the governor of colorado signed an important gun safety bill into law, a series of bills into law. the new laws limit ammunition magazines and requires universal background checks to be paid for by gun customers themselves.
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they followed new york who just over a month ago became the state with the toughest gun laws in the country. outlawing magazines with more than seven rounds and gun safety is a national problem but the states are leading the way. none more than the state of new york. joining me now is the man who played the pivotal role in getting those laws passed, new york state attorney general eric schneiderman. mr. attorney general, welcome back to the show. you had a top law enforcement official in one of the biggest states in the country. tell us how you managed to get things done what congress so far has not been able to do. >> i think we ought to give credit to my colleagues in government and really on a bipartisan basis in new york, i think people seized the
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political moment. it was a galvanizing force and the bill that the governor and senate and assembly passed and i'm now defending in court is a terrific step forward. but i have to tell you, in my experience, our office has reached a deal, a collaborative deal with all of the gun show operators in the state. the overwhelming majority of gun owners, sportsman gun enthusiasts that i've spoke with all support commonsense gun measures. >> that's what i want to get to. this gun show operators that you've been able to really make a breakthrough, you managed to get rid of a deadly loophole in new york. a majority of gun holders, more than 80%, have agreed to firearm tracking and sales. you worked with the gun show operators to get this done. tell us about this. >> the experience was that we realized there were gun shows that weren't doing background checks, that were assuring that
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sales were followed by background checks. we did an undercover sting operation and busted six different gun shows. instead of making this decision we're going to prosecute a few people, we said, let's work out model procedures and we did cooperatively with the gun show operators. and now we only busted six. now we've got more than 20 that have already signed up. these people are volunteering, signed up, saying -- >> these are nra members? these are pro-gun people? >> this is the rank and file of the nra. people keep saying that the nra is opposed. i don't know what the leadership is saying in washington but responsible gun owners do not want people with criminal background or people with problems, they have worked with us collaboratively to make sure that we're seamlessly backed off. >> see, this is what drives me bananas, because why can't
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washington do this? if you can do this in the state, colorado, this should be a national model for them to get out of the beltway and get out here 92% of the american people are supporting background checks. what are they arguing about in congress? >> in congress, i think you're right. i think people have to get out of the beltway. i think yelling at each other from podiums and sound bites, not doing the job. you know how i got to establish a line of communications? i got out of manhattan and met with sportsmen, went shooting with them and listened to their problems and we've now been able to close the loophole in new york state. i hope the feds are listening to this and i think the sportsmen support honest, fair, background checks. >> so let me get this right. you are perceived in some states as a liberal new yorker.
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you went up there shooting with them? >> yeah. the nra put out this warning, warning, antigun senator takes over key committee. so to deal with that, i established a clear communication. the overwhelming sportsmen, they are decent people and don't want to see kids shot down. i think background checks are something that washington can accomplish. gun trafficking legislation can still get done. >> now, when you look at new york state's laws, some of the toughest in the country, outlaws of broader array of military-style weapons that restricts ammunition magazines to seven rounds. it creates a more comprehensive database of people barred from owning guns, requires background checks, mental health professionals would be required to report patient threats to use guns illegally. i mean, this is just commonsense
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stuff that seized the moment after newtown to say we're burying six more babies in chicago and we can't get background checks? >> i think you're right. certainly everyone i've talked with agrees with this and i think it's true of people nationally. after a series of these disasters, newtown was just one step too far and the governor and speaker of the assembly and leaders of the senate took advantage of this to pass in new york. the gun, needless to say, there are people trying to challenge the gun law but my office is defending it and i'm confident that we'll prevail. more importantly, it's not that hard to actually do back ground checks. what i'm trying to show people is the gun show operators in knew, new york, we just have a commitment to make sure that no one who has a criminal background or who has a mental health problem does not have a gun in our state.
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the and liberals from manhattan alike. >> well, folks, there's a way to do this. there's a way to get this done. the schneiderman way might be what they need to look for in washington. new york state attorney general eric schneiderman, thank you for your time tonight and thank you for what you're doing. >> thank you. still ahead, why democrats loved the paul ryan budget. you heard right. the wrong way that ryan is dragging the gop over the cliff. first, john hannity has a brand-new birther theory. you'll definitely want to hear this one. stay with us. you say men are superior drivers?
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come to think of it, was senator cruz really born in canada? or was it kenya? and he went to princeton and harvard law but i never saw those transcripts. hmm. but back to hannity, he's right. it's wrong to question a politician's citizenship. i mean, who would stoop that low? >> what's the deal? why can't they just release the birth certificate and move on? >> you don't have a problem with people saying, can you see it? >> he could just go get the birth certificate and it would be over and i'm just curious why he wouldn't do that. >> i'm curious why the right wing would all of a sudden be against birthers? did they think we wouldn't notice them accusing liberals of doing exactly what they did? nice try but we gotcha. ♪
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today president obama was in israel almost 6,000 miles from home but the scene in washington was definitely on his mind. take a look. >> good to get away from congress. can you blame him? today, house republicans were gushing over the ryan budget that would end medicare as we know it, cut aid to the poor, and lower taxes on the rich. >> give support to what is happening. >> reward those individuals creating jobs and that's what the republican budget does. >> i'm proud to support both the republican study committee budget and the house republican budget. >> it's amazing. these are the very same ideas that voters rejected in the election. tomorrow, republicans are expected to vote for the ryan
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budget overwhelmingly and that has some democrats licking their chops. "the hill" reports that the democrats are ready to slam gop on the ryan budget putting this out on tut this ad before the 2 election. so go ahead, republicans, vote for that ryan budget. the american people are going to have a very different vote for you very soon. joining me now is congressman -- democratic congressman grayson and cynthia tucker. >> good to be here, reverend. >> it might be the worst one yet. how do you explain these
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republicans in the house? >> it's bad for seniors, bad for children, and it's bad for everyone, even white guys. it raises the debt by $6 trillion. that's $20,000 for every man, women, and child in this country for the sake of giving a $400,000 tax break to millionaires. the republicans are literally trying to bribe millionaires with their own money. >> cynthia, a new poll shows that paul ryan's favorability rating before the election in august was 50%. now it's down to 35%. they are following someone who is falling in the eyes of the american public. >> sinking like a stone. among republicans, his
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favorability ratings have dropped precipitously among republicans. they had a look at what he has to offer, it was not something that the american public was buying, and so now republicans are ready to move on. paul ryan, however, doesn't seem to get it. you know, the republican party just went through this exhaustive autopsy of all of the things that they did wrong. >> right. >> that have caused them to lose not just the last elections but five out of six of the popular election votes and presidential elections over the last several runs. but paul ryan believes that it was an austerity that sank the romney/ryan ticket. he believes he just didn't sell that austerity enough. he has said that. he believes, oh, we just didn't message it well enough. the american people knew exactly
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what they were selling and they wanted no part of it. and yet here they come, bringing back the same tired losing ideas again. >> now, you know, congressman, today during the debate, house republicans insisted that the public's spending can't create jobs. take a listen. >> we're not promoting additional stimulus spending as the budget being proposed is. a giant proposal for additional spending did not help us several years ago. jobs do not come from additional federal spending long term. >> congressman, new polls show americans of both parties want the federal government to spend to create jobs. 91% are democrats and 63% of republicans support a federal government program that would put people to work through infrastructure repairs, is what
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they support. and 93% of democrats and 56% of republicans support the federal government spending money to create more than a million new jobs. this is just a fact. and they are saying, government does a great job. government spending will not do it. >> well, i think that it shows that the public has a much better grip on reality than the republican party does. look at state after state when the republicans have been this charge. they have cut government spending in those states and they have laid off firefighters, teachers, police officers, they've laid off all sorts of public servants and destroyed those jobs and in those states like florida, unemployment has remained high. i'm not going to get into some abstract debate over whether government spending creates jobs because we've seen in the last few years and we're about to see with the federal sequester, that cutting spending destroys jobs and that's what we're going to see right now. we have a $14 trillion economy with $13 trillion of demand.
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the government is not making up the difference. if the government stops, will the economy collapse? maybe republicans will be happy because there will be a reserved army of 25 million unemployed people and as for the middle class, that's going to be over. >> we're not talking about jobs that are not necessary. i mean, when i come down your way, as i offered to come down to atlanta, we need insfra structure redevelopment. we're talking about bridges, tunnels, infrastructure that needs repair, needs to be dealt with, jobs that are needed. we're not just talking about charity here. >> indeed. >> look, i have five children -- >> this is not like the works public administration where some of the jobs that were created during the great depression weren't immediately necessary. i love some of those artworks but you can argue that those weren't necessary. but infrastructure spending is absolutely necessary. we are running so far behind.
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some of our biggest international competitors, like the chinese. >> right. >> who are building high-speed rail, bridges, roads. we're not doing that. our infrastructure is in disrepair. >> and we need to do it. congressman, we saw you going to boehner's office with petitions for 300,000 signatures about ending the sequester, but who's going to fight them on these -- the need for jobs, the need to stop this nonsense? i mean, are you going to take them on? who's going to stop this nonsense in congress? >> well, i'm hoping that the 750,000 people at a minimum will lose their jobs because the republican sequester will take them on. i'm hoping that the 3 1/2 million people who may lose their jobs because the 750,000 have no money left to spend on their rent, on housing, on health care, on food, all of the things that keep other people
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employeed, i'm hoping that they are complaining about it, too. and we did take 350,000 petitions directly to boehner's office to show him at least there's 350,000 people with their eyes wide open who understand if we cut these jobs we're going to end up hurting ourselves. and this notion that the recovery act didn't do any good is just nonsense. in my mabneighborhood, i have f children in public school in orlando. they were going to school in trailers and we replaced that with a brick building. >> the people that know the impact of the recovery are those that needed to be recovered. they very well may have not had anything to recover from. congressman alan grayson and cynthia tucker, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. ahead, is that michele bachmann training for a marathon? nope. it's just a mad dash from the
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facts. what a story. and it's march tradition like no other. brackets, basketball, and gop derangement. all that madness is next. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. protect your family... and launch your dreams. at we put the law on your side.
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mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. let the march madness begin. president obama's back with what's become a fun tradition, filling out his bracket for the
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ncaa basketball tournament. >> as president, we have a new term, one in three. >> i think we can do better. >> okay. >> 400 years. >> let's see what we can do. louisville looks good, st. louis is looking good. >> i still need to go with duke. >> noi don't know if you saw th uniforms that notre dame wore. >> i'm wearing a green tie because we have the british prime minister visiting. >> syracuse? >> mainly because if biden told me that if i didn't pick him he wouldn't talk to me. for the championship, i'm going back to the big 10. i think this is indiana's year. >> wow. great, thanks. >> the president filling out his brackets like millions of americans. it's the sort of thing that
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helps the president connect with the american people. the head of the rnc says it's something that republicans need to copy, not criticize. >> i think that our party has divorced itself from the american culture, that, me included, would make fun of the president or going on "the view," you've heard me say these things, talking hoop for half an hour on espn and that's where america is at and i think we've got to get with it. >> get with it. that's a great idea. problem is, other republicans are not on board. today, a top republican issued a statement ripping the president for his basketball picks, slamming his, quote, shocking failure of leadership and saying the president should be, quote, spending a little less time preparing his brackets and a little more time doing his job. and some house republicans actually made a web video attacking his brackets.
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do you remember insane bolt? he was the world-breaking medal winning jamaican sprinter who was the toast of london olympics, the guy who is considered the fastest person ever. well, from hussein bolt, we go to an insane bolt. check out republican congresswoman michele bachmann running for her life through the halls of congress. look at her sprint. she can't get away from that reporter fast enough. why? because she was asked to respond to this whopper. >> a new book is out talking about the perks in excess of the $1.4 billion a year presidency that we're paying for and this
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is a lifestyle that is one of excess. now we find out that there are five chefs on air force one. there are two projectionists who operate the white house movie theater. we are also the ones who are paying for someone to walk the president's dog, paying for someone to walk the president's dog. >> bachmann's allegations were totally bogus. "the washington post's" fact checker said money spent on the presidency and the so-called perks that she describes appear to be no different for obama than for bush or other presidents. it's absurd to suggest otherwise. and it earned her the prestigious four pinnochios. but the marathon of spsprint wa ending. >> you talked about the excess
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that he's engaged in, the fact that he has a dog walker, which is not true. >> the big point of my speech was about benghazi. this was an absolute disaster. you want to talk about dog handlers and there's four americans killed? that's pitful. >> but congresswoman, you're the one that brought it up. >> and she's gone. we shouldn't be surprised. it's not the first time bachmann's ran away from a woman trying to ask her a question. remember this, this story we unearthed today when bachmann bolted out and fled from two lesbians trying to talk to her in 2005? republicans want to live in a fact-free zone but when they get caught in the land of make-believe, all they can do is run from reality. joining me now are alex sykes wald and patricia murphy. thank you for being here
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tonight. >> hi. >> alex, this is an olympic sprint from bachmann. how can a member of congress run from something she said in a speech? >> well, she's like the raw uncut aide of the conservative movement. there's no filter on what she says and she's been doing this forever and it's really about fundraising for her. it's throwing the most outlandish statements. they are attacking me. with won't you chip in $5 to defend me? there's a bizarre world where there's no incentive for her to be right and the more wrong she is, the better she does. >> this is so bizarre. let me ask you, patricia, in the speech she said it was all about benghazi. but listen to this. >> of every dollar that you hold in your hand, 70 cents of that
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dollar that's supposed to go to the poor doesn't. it actually goes to benefit the bureaucrats in washington, d.c. 70 cents on a dollar. that's how the president practices. so $3 in food stamps for the needy. $7 in salaries and pensions for the bureaucrats who are supposed to be taking care of the poor. >> now, politifact says that it's ridiculously off base and rule her claims to merit a pants on fire rating, patricia. >> yes. i would also like to declare, i have also chased michele bachmann. she's extremely quick and it's incredibly hard to catch her. my heart goes out to dana bash. >> you have had to chase her? really? >> yes, i have chased her.
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she's really very quick. she's really quick on her feet. if she doesn't want to answer a question, it's just not going to happen. >> she's quick on facts, too. but go ahead. >> she's more fast and loose with the facts and that's the problem here, and really if you listen to her entire speech at cpac, what we're talking about in terms of the dog walker and the presidential limos, that's the tip of the iceberg. her biggest point was that republican conservatives care about americans, care about people in the audience. democrats do not. and saying that the president is living a lavish lifestyle and help americans take care of each other. her speech was so riddled with facts. she's saying that we need to fund alzheimer's research and the president wants to increase alzheimer's research. so it's almost impossible to know where to start with the fact checking. i give all of the fact checkers out there a big hand for trying
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to do it but there are not enough columns to check that entire speech at cpac. >> you have to go back to this highlight-worthy clip from bill o'reilly. watch this. >> he has to i sa, here are the programs that are going to go down, here's how we're going to reform medicare and social security, and the man refuses to do. >> no, he doesn't. >> hold on, give me one damn program he said he would cut. one. >> he said he would cut entitlements. >> entitlements? >> why do you want to yell at sne. >> because you're lying. >> i am not lying. >> you are lying here. >> don't sit there and call me a liar. >> you are lying. >> hey, you don't like the president. you don't like what he's doing but don't sit there and call me a liar. >> i am. >> they can't handle facts. i mean, they go bazerk when
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confronted on the facts. they get highly irritated. they just can't handle it. >> in washington we're talking about sequestration, how to deal with the budget and they refuse to believe that obama has put a plan on the table. there's a plan. it's on and pretend that he hasn't done that yet and even this week with the rnc autopsy plan, the election was a big fact coming right up that they couldn't deny and acknowledged some things and i'll give them credit for that. on the economic issues, they completely ignore them in that report because they really don't have an answer. they want to cut taxes and cut the deficit at the same time. those are their two agenda items. you can't do both. they are just trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. >> now, when you look at the
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reaction, patricia, there's no wonder they are being defeated at the polls and poll after poll shows that americans are not going their way but i think this only further drives the wedge between the american voters because people are offended when it is clear you are not even being honest with them. >> well, yeah. and i think what americans are really want is just an honest discussion of the issues and if people come at an issue and have an honest disagreement and use facts that are accurate, you can have that discussion and debate. but when you come out of a discussion with facts that are not true that "the washington post" says are four pin knock key ohios, you can't even start to talk about things in an honest way and that's why michele bachmann has gotten into so much trouble. she won her last wasn't by a point. she's a huge target for democrats coming up in the next election cycle. i think as much as she wants people to be on her side, if she would just start with the basic
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